could you please make a playlist for this? i've grabbed a lot of good stuff here, but there is some truly amazing stuff in this mix that i've missed. i stopped commenting in general because it seems you're not that in to interacting. anyway, thanks for this and all your efforts.
i'm especially interested in a song about 4 or 5 tracks in; it begins with what almost sounds like roland kirk playing his stritch, followed by a mid section featuring an astonishing female vocalist with a very fluid style, then ending with the "stritch". she's also unusual in that she's an alto with very rich tone. the next tune is great too, featuring an instrument that could be described as a tenor marimba.
Hey Gregory, oh I interact alright I just totally stopped reacting to requests, stopped reacting to those years ago because I get flooded by them and after explaining again and again and again that most of these requests.... well, there's literally thousands of tapes, thousands of vinyl, mostly in boxes, at my place and in another location, it just takes too much time to go looking for stuff....
Anyway, here's the playlist:
01 Yayah Ratnasari & Karawang Group - Sulanjana - Jaipong 02 Jugala Group - Kawung Anten - Jaipong 03 Ciung - Senggot - Pergosi Odong Odong 04 Darso & Neneng Yetty Sarifah - Si Kai - Calung 05 H. Dariyah - Simbar Pati - Tarling Tung Deng 06 Titin Maryati & Kamajaya Group - Turun Sintren - Tarling Dangdut 07 Itih S. & Primadonna Group - Kiser Saedah - Tayuban 08 Medal Harepan Group - Pateuteup Deudeuh - Pencak Kawih Jaipong 09 Een Ratnaningsih - Gara Gara Salome - Jaipong 10 Endang Revi S. - Pemuda Idaman - Kliningan Dangdut 11 Ety Herawaty - Urang Ngibing - Jaipong Dangdut 12 Lilis Kasiri, Kontrak & Putri Kuda Hidup Group - Ajar Kenal - Genjring
Also, I sometimes find out there's comments that I've never see before, either because of some kind of glitz or because those comments were made while I was either traveling or back home in Holland for a while and when in Holland I stay off the net totally, maybe weird but I kind a like that, off the net for a period :)
But seriously, now that I'm on it, those requests... there are days that there are 10, 20 requests, for real, requests are the main reason I stopped dj-ing here in Indonesia, not making this up, but you will have 30 to 40 people coming up telling you to play Bob Marley, sometimes even while you are playing Bob Marley, and it often involves somebody completely out of their head spilling beer over the equipment.... One time I was playing, I was the house dj in a place called Cloud 9 and a group of American girls came in, they were incredibly arrogant and demanded that I had to play hip hop. Well, I had no problem with that, I used to play hip hop all the time, in fact I usedto play almost only hip hop way, way back in Rotterdam, so I started playing hip hop and the started complaining, yeah well what kind of hip hop you want? We want Britney Spears!!!! Britney Spears? I don't have no fucking Britney Spears! Then we want Justin Timberlake!!! Justin Timberlake, what are you on about? Britney Spears, Justin Timberlake, that ain't even hip hop! They kept pestering me and I told them to go downtown to the local Mickey Mouse club.... God, I honestly hate requests....
Later found out that these girls were Christian missionaries and I really hate Christian missionaries, they cause loads and loads of trouble here, go into areas where Christians and Muslims live together without problems, these guys go in and before you know it there are huge problems, violence even deaths, I know this, I worked for quiet a while for a Catholic organization that was there for handicapped kids, they showed me what happens when these types come in.... Anyway, enough ranting for a day :)
I for one appreciate a good rant! Xtian missionaries, ugh -- my sympathies. Anyway I love this mix, thanks for posting the track list. BTW Marco's post mentioned that you were a punk drummer, mind if I ask which band(s)? I've looked here and maybe I missed the posts, but I can't find anything but a photo of you behind the kit with no other info....
Hey there! Yeah, punk drummer, but that was eons ago, first band was a band called Pleeboy (plee = Dutch for toilet) we performed a bunch of times, first time was in the city of Goes together with The Pleemobielz, The Proove and Red Hulk BV, we also did a gig at my then school, detailhandel school, the director pulled the plug after 2 or 3 (one minute) songs so Maas who was a monster of a skinhead, a good friend beat down the director and pulled the plug back in and we kept playing, I was thrown out of school then and I ended up living in squat houses in Rotterdam, 15 years of age, Maas went on to become the de facto leader of all Dutch skinheads, he was also a bodyguard for extremist right wing leaders like Glimmerveen and Jan Maat, the guy was an absolute monster, 300 ponuds and no fat but he was mu buddy and always stayed my buddy even though I was with the anarcho-communist punks and he was with the skin heads, he saved me a few times too...One time I walked into a bar, The Twijfelaer and the place was full with Amsterdam skinheads, there must've been 60, 70 of them and as soon as I walked in, decked out in all my buttons and shit and that huge hammer and sickle with the Baader Meinhoff sign on my back they all stood up and started shouting Sieg Heil! And throwing the nazi salute at me. There wasn't a punk in the place and me, barely 16, I did the most stupid thing possible, I gave them the raised fist (much like the guy in Pasolini's Salo, 120 Days Of Sodom) and they all stormed at me. If Maas hadn't jumped in between, lauging and telling them that I was not to be touched I'm not sure if I would be writing this :) We we dumb and young, so stupid that we never recorded anything with Pleeboy... After that I played in many bands but you know how it goes, a few months in this bands a few weeks in that band, I played with the Debiele Eenheid but that was only once, the whole band was fighting and shouting,their usual, one of the greatest Rotterdam punk bands at the time, played with Skitzofrenikz once but that was after a few days on speed and a night on poppers, every time I would hit the snare my head would explode.... I kinda got out of the whole punk movement around '82, there's no explaining how fucked up the movement had become in Rotterdam, we were hated by most of Holland because of the violence, so many people we getting hooked on smack and dying, either by overdose or by getting knifed or having their head bashed in by an ax or something... I kept playing but went solo around '86, hometaping witha 4 track cassette recorder, one of those very first casio samp-le keyboard where you just had to push the button on time, no cutting samples, a mic, a wind organ and my drum kit and I was still recording with The Prutsers, a living room band with some friends, Johnny from the DIY blog has our tapes posted.... The 80's were pretty fucking wild but they weren't as crazy as the 90's for me personally, by the time the 90's arrived I was a jiu jitsu beast with years of training behind me, broke up with my then girl after 7 years and went really solo, working in greenhouses all over Holland growing grass, mainly with Feyenoord Hooligans, crazy adventures, working in the craziest cafe in Rotterdam Cafe The Rhythm and doing dj jobs all over the place, I was off for months to Thailand in '92,'93, '94,'95 and in '96 I went to Jakarta, Indonesia, the plan was to make my way to Bombay overland but I came to Bandung, met my wife and never left :) In a nut shell!
I worked as a volunteer for an organization called Bhakti Luhur, based in Malang, like I said, handicapped kids, started when I went with a group of folks from Holland as a sort of guide, seen things that nobody should see, terrible things, did field work in Tangerang, Bekasi, Bogor and far away villages in East Java, loved doing it, loved playing with the kids but then I got my son and I had to stop, just couldn't go on these trips for weeks at the time, don't know what it is, but those kids love me and I love those kids. I got too close with one person, a girl, by that time in her 30's named Tyas, she suffered from a muscle disease and was paralyzed, if I was staying in Malang I would visit her twice a day to feed her, she loved cakes and those little jelly things and I would be covered in slime and snot after feeding her, that really messed with my head for a while, just too damn tragic. I also one time went to a place outside Malang where there were huge problems with local (and outside) right wing extremist Muslim groups who didn't like a Catholic organization taking care of Muslim handicapped kids, on a kind of peace mission which was, I'm proud to say, successful.... Went there, Malang, last February again and it was great to see all my old friends there again.... The only thing I really couldn't handle was these kids with Noma.... Noma is what sometimes happens with kinds that don't eat well, huge mushrooms of flesh will grow out of their faces, there's just no describing it, it's horror, seen a lot of those in a place run by a Dutch woman in Tangerang....
There's a page here with music I made and if you scroll to the bottom there's some old 80's work, solo and with the Prutsers, it's pretty weird stuff but ehrrr.... let's just call it post-punk :)
Whoa, thanks for such an expansive reply! Fascinating to hear your history. It’s always been obvious from this blog that you’re a dedicated listener and as big-hearted as you are big-eared, but this speaks volumes. I’m listening to some De Prutsers tracks right now on the Soundcloud link, I’m digging it — may even play some on my radio show. Really interesting how even back in 1986 on “Sperziebonen” I can hear instrumental echoes of some of the music you post here. It might not have been your intention at the time or even anything you knew about then, but I hear a common thread. Thanks also for sharing all that about your work with handicapped kids, clearly echoes of anarcho-communist punk ideals live on. I was not aware of Noma, I did a little research and it’s heartbreaking. I know you’re not looking for a pat on the back, but big kudos to you for the work you’ve done.
It actually was wide spread all over the world in earlier days, Noma, made a return to the Western world in Auschwitz, Mengele was experimenting with (gypsy) kids that got it, it's incredibly horrible and so not necessary now a days, same with the crazy amount of blind kids here, it's poverty, bad nutrition....
Yeah the Prutsers :) I was either recording at home back then or playing with my friends, wanna go through all the old tapes that I still have and properly record everything from those days, maybe make another soundcloud link....
Thanks for the reply and especially for the tracklist. When I get the time I'm going to hunt some of them down in your massive archive. I initially searched one when I first checked your list the other day but couldn't find it. (05 H. Dariyah - Simbar Pati - Tarling Tung Deng)
Welcome Gregory, well, there's 67 cassettes from H. Dariyah on the blog but you can narrow down your search by going for the tarling dangdut cassettes :)
could you please make a playlist for this? i've grabbed a lot of good stuff here, but there is some truly amazing stuff in this mix that i've missed. i stopped commenting in general because it seems you're not that in to interacting. anyway, thanks for this and all your efforts.
ReplyDeletei'm especially interested in a song about 4 or 5 tracks in; it begins with what almost sounds like roland kirk playing his stritch, followed by a mid section featuring an astonishing female vocalist with a very fluid style, then ending with the "stritch". she's also unusual in that she's an alto with very rich tone. the next tune is great too, featuring an instrument that could be described as a tenor marimba.
ReplyDeleteHey Gregory, oh I interact alright I just totally stopped reacting to requests, stopped reacting to those years ago because I get flooded by them and after explaining again and again and again that most of these requests.... well, there's literally thousands of tapes, thousands of vinyl, mostly in boxes, at my place and in another location, it just takes too much time to go looking for stuff....
ReplyDeleteAnyway, here's the playlist:
01 Yayah Ratnasari & Karawang Group - Sulanjana - Jaipong
02 Jugala Group - Kawung Anten - Jaipong
03 Ciung - Senggot - Pergosi Odong Odong
04 Darso & Neneng Yetty Sarifah - Si Kai - Calung
05 H. Dariyah - Simbar Pati - Tarling Tung Deng
06 Titin Maryati & Kamajaya Group - Turun Sintren - Tarling Dangdut
07 Itih S. & Primadonna Group - Kiser Saedah - Tayuban
08 Medal Harepan Group - Pateuteup Deudeuh - Pencak Kawih Jaipong
09 Een Ratnaningsih - Gara Gara Salome - Jaipong
10 Endang Revi S. - Pemuda Idaman - Kliningan Dangdut
11 Ety Herawaty - Urang Ngibing - Jaipong Dangdut
12 Lilis Kasiri, Kontrak & Putri Kuda Hidup Group - Ajar Kenal - Genjring
Also, I sometimes find out there's comments that I've never see before, either because of some kind of glitz or because those comments were made while I was either traveling or back home in Holland for a while and when in Holland I stay off the net totally, maybe weird but I kind a like that, off the net for a period :)
ReplyDeleteBut seriously, now that I'm on it, those requests... there are days that there are 10, 20 requests, for real, requests are the main reason I stopped dj-ing here in Indonesia, not making this up, but you will have 30 to 40 people coming up telling you to play Bob Marley, sometimes even while you are playing Bob Marley, and it often involves somebody completely out of their head spilling beer over the equipment.... One time I was playing, I was the house dj in a place called Cloud 9 and a group of American girls came in, they were incredibly arrogant and demanded that I had to play hip hop. Well, I had no problem with that, I used to play hip hop all the time, in fact I usedto play almost only hip hop way, way back in Rotterdam, so I started playing hip hop and the started complaining, yeah well what kind of hip hop you want? We want Britney Spears!!!! Britney Spears? I don't have no fucking Britney Spears! Then we want Justin Timberlake!!! Justin Timberlake, what are you on about? Britney Spears, Justin Timberlake, that ain't even hip hop! They kept pestering me and I told them to go downtown to the local Mickey Mouse club.... God, I honestly hate requests....
ReplyDeleteLater found out that these girls were Christian missionaries and I really hate Christian missionaries, they cause loads and loads of trouble here, go into areas where Christians and Muslims live together without problems, these guys go in and before you know it there are huge problems, violence even deaths, I know this, I worked for quiet a while for a Catholic organization that was there for handicapped kids, they showed me what happens when these types come in.... Anyway, enough ranting for a day :)
ReplyDeleteI for one appreciate a good rant! Xtian missionaries, ugh -- my sympathies. Anyway I love this mix, thanks for posting the track list. BTW Marco's post mentioned that you were a punk drummer, mind if I ask which band(s)? I've looked here and maybe I missed the posts, but I can't find anything but a photo of you behind the kit with no other info....
ReplyDeleteHey there! Yeah, punk drummer, but that was eons ago, first band was a band called Pleeboy (plee = Dutch for toilet) we performed a bunch of times, first time was in the city of Goes together with The Pleemobielz, The Proove and Red Hulk BV, we also did a gig at my then school, detailhandel school, the director pulled the plug after 2 or 3 (one minute) songs so Maas who was a monster of a skinhead, a good friend beat down the director and pulled the plug back in and we kept playing, I was thrown out of school then and I ended up living in squat houses in Rotterdam, 15 years of age, Maas went on to become the de facto leader of all Dutch skinheads, he was also a bodyguard for extremist right wing leaders like Glimmerveen and Jan Maat, the guy was an absolute monster, 300 ponuds and no fat but he was mu buddy and always stayed my buddy even though I was with the anarcho-communist punks and he was with the skin heads, he saved me a few times too...One time I walked into a bar, The Twijfelaer and the place was full with Amsterdam skinheads, there must've been 60, 70 of them and as soon as I walked in, decked out in all my buttons and shit and that huge hammer and sickle with the Baader Meinhoff sign on my back they all stood up and started shouting Sieg Heil! And throwing the nazi salute at me. There wasn't a punk in the place and me, barely 16, I did the most stupid thing possible, I gave them the raised fist (much like the guy in Pasolini's Salo, 120 Days Of Sodom) and they all stormed at me. If Maas hadn't jumped in between, lauging and telling them that I was not to be touched I'm not sure if I would be writing this :) We we dumb and young, so stupid that we never recorded anything with Pleeboy... After that I played in many bands but you know how it goes, a few months in this bands a few weeks in that band, I played with the Debiele Eenheid but that was only once, the whole band was fighting and shouting,their usual, one of the greatest Rotterdam punk bands at the time, played with Skitzofrenikz once but that was after a few days on speed and a night on poppers, every time I would hit the snare my head would explode.... I kinda got out of the whole punk movement around '82, there's no explaining how fucked up the movement had become in Rotterdam, we were hated by most of Holland because of the violence, so many people we getting hooked on smack and dying, either by overdose or by getting knifed or having their head bashed in by an ax or something... I kept playing but went solo around '86, hometaping witha 4 track cassette recorder, one of those very first casio samp-le keyboard where you just had to push the button on time, no cutting samples, a mic, a wind organ and my drum kit and I was still recording with The Prutsers, a living room band with some friends, Johnny from the DIY blog has our tapes posted.... The 80's were pretty fucking wild but they weren't as crazy as the 90's for me personally, by the time the 90's arrived I was a jiu jitsu beast with years of training behind me, broke up with my then girl after 7 years and went really solo, working in greenhouses all over Holland growing grass, mainly with Feyenoord Hooligans, crazy adventures, working in the craziest cafe in Rotterdam Cafe The Rhythm and doing dj jobs all over the place, I was off for months to Thailand in '92,'93, '94,'95 and in '96 I went to Jakarta, Indonesia, the plan was to make my way to Bombay overland but I came to Bandung, met my wife and never left :) In a nut shell!
ReplyDeleteI worked as a volunteer for an organization called Bhakti Luhur, based in Malang, like I said, handicapped kids, started when I went with a group of folks from Holland as a sort of guide, seen things that nobody should see, terrible things, did field work in Tangerang, Bekasi, Bogor and far away villages in East Java, loved doing it, loved playing with the kids but then I got my son and I had to stop, just couldn't go on these trips for weeks at the time, don't know what it is, but those kids love me and I love those kids. I got too close with one person, a girl, by that time in her 30's named Tyas, she suffered from a muscle disease and was paralyzed, if I was staying in Malang I would visit her twice a day to feed her, she loved cakes and those little jelly things and I would be covered in slime and snot after feeding her, that really messed with my head for a while, just too damn tragic. I also one time went to a place outside Malang where there were huge problems with local (and outside) right wing extremist Muslim groups who didn't like a Catholic organization taking care of Muslim handicapped kids, on a kind of peace mission which was, I'm proud to say, successful.... Went there, Malang, last February again and it was great to see all my old friends there again.... The only thing I really couldn't handle was these kids with Noma.... Noma is what sometimes happens with kinds that don't eat well, huge mushrooms of flesh will grow out of their faces, there's just no describing it, it's horror, seen a lot of those in a place run by a Dutch woman in Tangerang....
ReplyDeleteThere's a page here with music I made and if you scroll to the bottom there's some old 80's work, solo and with the Prutsers, it's pretty weird stuff but ehrrr.... let's just call it post-punk :)
ReplyDeletehttps://soundcloud.com/madrot
ReplyDeleteWhoa, thanks for such an expansive reply! Fascinating to hear your history. It’s always been obvious from this blog that you’re a dedicated listener and as big-hearted as you are big-eared, but this speaks volumes. I’m listening to some De Prutsers tracks right now on the Soundcloud link, I’m digging it — may even play some on my radio show. Really interesting how even back in 1986 on “Sperziebonen” I can hear instrumental echoes of some of the music you post here. It might not have been your intention at the time or even anything you knew about then, but I hear a common thread. Thanks also for sharing all that about your work with handicapped kids, clearly echoes of anarcho-communist punk ideals live on. I was not aware of Noma, I did a little research and it’s heartbreaking. I know you’re not looking for a pat on the back, but big kudos to you for the work you’ve done.
It actually was wide spread all over the world in earlier days, Noma, made a return to the Western world in Auschwitz, Mengele was experimenting with (gypsy) kids that got it, it's incredibly horrible and so not necessary now a days, same with the crazy amount of blind kids here, it's poverty, bad nutrition....
ReplyDeleteYeah the Prutsers :) I was either recording at home back then or playing with my friends, wanna go through all the old tapes that I still have and properly record everything from those days, maybe make another soundcloud link....
Thanks for the reply and especially for the tracklist. When I get the time I'm going to hunt some of them down in your massive archive. I initially searched one when I first checked your list the other day but couldn't find it. (05 H. Dariyah - Simbar Pati - Tarling Tung Deng)
DeleteWelcome Gregory, well, there's 67 cassettes from H. Dariyah on the blog but you can narrow down your search by going for the tarling dangdut cassettes :)
ReplyDelete